Podcast | Mindset
Episode 89 | May 23, 2026

How to Handle Life’s Unexpected Turns w/ Lisa Cork

The Detour Is the Path

What if the people who become CEOs are the same people who had no clue what they were doing at 22?

Here is what nobody tells you about success: the straightest path is almost never the real one. The detours, the “wrong” turns, the plans you cancel at the last minute are often where your actual life begins.

In this episode of the Happy Healthy Hustle Podcast, I sit down with Lisa Cork, CEO and Chief Strategist of Fresh Produce Marketing Ltd for 35 years, and my colleague at Cal Poly.

Lisa graduated, accepted a prestigious New York ad agency job, and then did something most people are terrified to do. She undid it.

After a summer in Europe, she realized the “dream job” everyone congratulated her on no longer fit who she had become. So she turned it down. No job, bills to pay, no plan. Two weeks later, a 30-second conversation on a friend’s porch changed the entire trajectory of her career.

You are not the same person who made your original plan. And you are allowed to change it.

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“Don’t be afraid to undo what you’ve done.”

– Dr. Christiane Schroeter

Fast Skim & Timestamps

  • 0:00 From Campus to CEO: The Real Journey
  • 2:05 Meet Lisa Cork (35 Years as CEO)
  • 4:33 What She Thought Life Would Look Like
  • 6:14 How Travel and Marketing Collided
  • 9:16 The Dream Job She Turned Down
  • 11:50 Why Your Dreams Are Allowed to Change
  • 13:44 The Porch Conversation That Changed Everything
  • 15:18 Saying Yes When Opportunity Knocks

Key Takeaways

  1. The people who feel most uncertain at 22 often go the furthest. Not knowing is not a disadvantage.
  2. You are allowed to undo what you have done, even when everyone is congratulating you on it.
  3. The pause is not wasted time. It is where you hear the opportunity knocking.
  4. One 30-second conversation can change your entire trajectory. Never underestimate your network.
  5. You are not the same person who made your original plan, and you do not have to honor a dream you outgrew.
  6. Sometimes success is less about forcing the plan and more about saying yes to the unexpected.

Three Petite Practice® Questions

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1.  What dream am I still chasing only because I would feel guilty undoing it?

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2.  Where in my life is opportunity quietly knocking while I am too busy to hear it?

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3.  Am I building the life I planned, or the life I am actually meant for?

Transcript Chapters

0:00 From Campus to CEO: The Real Journey

[00:00:01] Dr. Christiane Schroeter: Nobody tells you this. After graduation, the people who become CEOs are usually the same people who had no clue what they were doing at 22. Today’s episode is about career pivots, unexpected opportunities, and how one decision can completely change your future. If you are ambitious but uncertain about your next step, this conversation is for you.

2:05 Meet Lisa Cork, 35 Years as CEO

[00:02:05] Lisa Cork: I’m Lisa Cork, CEO and chief strategist at Fresh Produce Marketing Limited, which has been my own consulting company for the last 35 years. When we talk about whether you can crystal-ball-gaze and project where life takes you, I had no idea when I graduated Cal Poly Ag Business in 1988 that I would immigrate to New Zealand, become CEO of my own strategy company, or end up back at Cal Poly teaching in the department that transformed my life. It’s a full circle moment.

4:33 What She Thought Life Would Look Like

[00:04:33] Lisa Cork: My first passion has always been traveling. By the time I graduated, traveling was a big part of my university career. I did internships in St. Louis and Washington, D.C., and drove back and forth across America twice to get myself to and from them. If you would have asked me then, I might have told you I wanted to be a truck driver. That is how much I loved the open road.

6:14 When Travel and Marketing Collided

[00:06:14] Lisa Cork: My second passion was marketing. I had a special professor who was a consultant doing business in the real world, and he brought the classroom to life every single day. He was a real catalyst for igniting my passion. In 1987 I made the NAMA marketing team, was appointed captain, and we won the national competition with Sunkist as our client. That was my first exposure to fresh produce marketing, which became such a big part of my world.

9:16 The Dream Job She Turned Down

[00:09:16] Lisa Cork: When you win the national competition, companies come knocking. I was approached by a big agribusiness ad agency in Rochester, New York, and said yes immediately. It sounded amazing: wearing a suit, moving to a different state. Then after graduation I went to Europe for three months. I spent the summer in shorts and a T-shirt, and suddenly realized I’d taken a job where I’d have to wear a suit and heels every day in a really cold part of New York. Something changed in me.

11:50 Why Your Dreams Are Allowed to Change

[00:11:50] Lisa Cork: In the moment, the opportunity seemed amazing. Coming back from Europe, it was no longer amazing. Here is the catalyst moment your listeners may enjoy: don’t be afraid to undo what you’ve done. I knew it was the responsible thing, the thing everyone congratulated me on. But I called them up and said, I’m not coming. That left me with bills to pay and no job. We are not the same person we were as students. Give yourself permission to change your dreams.

13:44 The Porch Conversation That Changed Everything

[00:13:44] Lisa Cork: Two weeks later, everything changed. I was sitting on the porch of the house where I was living, and a peer from university drove by. He asked what I was doing, and I said I’d turned down the New York job and was unemployed. He said, I’ve gone to work for the most amazing company. They sell fruits and vegetables, it’s like trading stock but in produce, and we’re hiring. That one 30-minute conversation literally changed my entire life and led to the career I have today.

15:18 Saying Yes When Opportunity Knocks

[00:15:18] Lisa Cork: Sometimes you just have to say yes to the opportunity that knocks. [00:15:21] Dr. Christiane Schroeter: I tell my students: pause and feel it out. There might be opportunities knocking that you ignored because you were so focused on moving forward. The pause is sometimes what leads to your next movement. [00:15:43] Lisa Cork: Or you’re so focused on where you think you should be that you don’t take time to understand where you may be destined.

Meet Your Host

Dr. Christiane Schroeter

Dr. Christiane Schroeter

TEDx Speaker & Leadership Strategist

I’m Dr. Christiane Schroeter, TEDx speaker, leadership strategist, and host of the Top 1% ranked Happy Healthy Hustle Podcast. I help leaders think clearly, speak with conviction, and take the next step during change.

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